tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-667454104545986293.post3431662255285145778..comments2014-05-12T23:09:34.589-04:00Comments on Social Foundations III: Freud - Jordan SProf. Ashley Vaughthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17962110104131700355noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-667454104545986293.post-74215577618254376302014-05-11T22:46:07.190-04:002014-05-11T22:46:07.190-04:00I agree with your comment about how neighbor hosti...I agree with your comment about how neighbor hostility is absurd in civil society. The idea that we have an instinct to self-preservation that causes us to be aggressive towards others seems normal in a primitive society, like that of Locke's state of nature. The state of war coincides with this aggression principle that Freud writes about. However, civil society doesn't depict this instinctual state. People are rational and normally shy away from directly killing others. I think that this aggression isn't carried out,but only takes place in our mind. This inner conflict would have to happen in the super ego because we aren't aware of a constant struggle not to kill others.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00357653462822433880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-667454104545986293.post-13695663437997586082014-05-11T14:35:52.771-04:002014-05-11T14:35:52.771-04:00I think, to connect back to the texts we read at t...I think, to connect back to the texts we read at the very beginning, the hostility among neighbors Freud talks about is in direct contradiction to Kant's social unsociability (or is it unsocial sociability? whatever) and Rousseau's social contract. Both of those are based on self-preservation within a society--you agree not to threaten someone's life so they won't threaten yours. This I agree with. I guess I can kind of see where Freud is coming from, because I also agree with his point that aggressiveness came before private property--it's a part of the state of nature, in other words--but it goes against the most basic human instinct of self-preservation. Yes, there have been countless incidents of violence in history. We all just wrote essays about it. But what I argued in my essay is that there had to have been certain conditions that came before to establish the context for the violence. It's not something innate and natural; it is always an effect of something. As your last sentence says, it depends on the environment. Freud thinks of neighbor hostility as automatic and unthinking, and existing even within a civil society, which I think is absurd.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09010108704899202262noreply@blogger.com